REACTION: 9021OMG Episode 18

Monday’s “9021OMG” podcast covered the 16th episode of “Beverly Hills, 90210.”

In “Fame Is Where You Find It,” Brandon (Jason Priestley) gets cast in a television show called “Keep It Together,” which stars Lydia Leeds (Marcy Kaplan). Brenda (Shannen Doherty) fills in for her brother at The Peach Pit, leading to a classic scene in which she takes on the persona of “Laverne” and charms customers.

The episode is very “inside baseball,” or perhaps “meta” is the better word, in that it takes viewers behind the scenes of a television show and gives you a glimpse into how TV series are produced. The hour was written by executive producer Charles Rosin and his wife Karen Rosin, with direction by Paul Schneider.

The Rosins discussed “Fame Is Where You Find It” on the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” podcast last July. Now Jennie Garth (Kelly) and Tori Spelling (Donna) had the opportunity to weigh in.

9021OMG Episode 18, “Jennie Barf & Limo Rides”

• Jennie thanked fans for listening and said she wanted to check in with Tori and Sisanie before getting to the episode.

• Sisanie said she’s past the nausea point of her pregnancy.

• Jennie: “Are you sick of talking about it yet?”

  • I’m already sick of hearing about it.

• Tori wanted to know how Sisanie feels about the “belly touch.” She currently hates it. 

• Jennie is not okay with it either. She also admitted she’s “not really a hugger,” adding, “It takes me a minute to warm up to someone and their germs.”

• Tori (who did allow people to touch her bumps) said Jennie gives good hugs when she does know and like you.

• Tori said her son Beau turned 4 and she’s “sad” because she no longer has a “baby.”

• Jennie called Beau “the cutest little boy my eyes have ever seen.”

• Tori said she regrets not recording her older kids a lot so she could still hear their baby voice.

• Jennie: “The one great thing about my ex is he did so much recording of the kids. We have tons and tons of footage of them when they were little.”

  • The ONE great thing?!

• Tori went on to discuss Beau’s Mickey Mouse-themed birthday party, which she also showcased on Instagram.

• Jennie: “I miss those days, the big birthday party days.”

• Tori noted oldest child Liam’s 13th birthday came last year when Los Angeles went into lockdown and now here we are about to hit his 14th birthday with no parties either year: “I feel the saddest for teenagers.”

• Jennie asked Tori to give Beau a kiss for her since she can’t “smother him with kisses.”

• After about 6 and a half minutes, they transitioned to the episode at hand, with Tori asking, “So what do we got this week?”

• Jennie gave the episode title, air date, director name, and then said it was “written by our good friend Darren Star.” 

  • That is incorrect — as I noted above, this episode was written by the Rosins. And not only did they write it, but they did a whole interview about writing it only months ago. Another fact-checking and research fail.

  • And since when is Darren their “good friend”?

• Tori gave the synopsis and thought it was “fun” just based on that.

• Sisanie: “This whole episode was fun.”

• Jennie: “I enjoyed watching it and seeing the behind the scenes. I’m sure everybody really loved watching that back in the day because they really didn’t have access to knowing what it was like on a set. People in Kansas, wherever, Germany, whoever was watching the show, they didn’t really know what it looked like, but that’s what it looked like.”

• Tori agreed. She noted how there are shows today that “depict Hollywood behind the scenes” but “there was nothing then.”

• Jennie said “BH90210” was a “behind the curtains” look.

  • Yeah, and we know how that worked out.

• Indeed, Jennie said, “I love that stuff.” To which Tori said, “Me too. Apparently you guys didn’t.” Superfan Sisanie insisted, “We did.” (Just who is “we,” Sis?) Tori then amended her statement to, “Apparently FOX didn’t like it.” 

• Jennie: “We both know FOX had an agenda going in. They wanted it for six episodes. It was like an event, limited series for them.”

• Tori said she remembers when they “read it in the press” that it was an event / limited series, with Jennie insisting, “We had never heard those words” before. Tori called them “red flags.” 

• Superfan Sisanie wanted to know if “that’s just how it happens.” Tori said their people communicated with FOX’s people and “by the time it came back to us, it was like, ‘Oh, no, this is just what we do. We say ‘event’ to make it more exciting.” Jennie: “We’re both calling bullshit on that one.” They vowed not to be “fooled” again.

• Superfan Sisanie next asked, “Could you have gone to another network?” Jennie said they “could’ve, but we just kind of felt like it was supposed to be at FOX and taking it somewhere else felt a little weird.” Sisanie: “Well, we would’ve followed you guys wherever you went.”

  • They did seem to suggest at the time that they were shopping it around after FOX dropped it… 

• Jennie: “But enough about that show. Let’s talk about this show.”

  • SERIOUSLY.

• Jennie was fooled by the opening with the “criminal.”

• As Jennie was saying that, Tori’s dog started barking and Tori yelled his name: “Musso!” 

• Jennie wanted to know if Tori and Sisanie roller-bladed. Tori didn’t, Sisanie did, and Jennie was “more of a roller-skater.” 

• They were impressed by Jason’s “mad moves” and talked about his real-life skating / hockey skills.

• Jennie was grossed out by the director kissing Lydia. Tori agreed they were “too close.”

• Tori: “I didn’t remember the episode from when we first shot it so I thought it was going to go a different direction because we have all these themes of older romances.” Jennie: “Well, I’m glad it didn’t.”

• Jennie said Lydia had “such a made-up name.” Tori liked the name and imagined it was a stage name Lydia had to use.

• Jennie: “I wanted to change my name.” Why? Because, she revealed, in elementary school, people called her “Jennie Barf.” This sent Tori into hysterics.

• Tori: “Well, those kids are sad now.” Sisanie: “Yeah, joke’s on them.”

• Tori admitted she didn’t like “Tori” originally.

• Jennie said it was a “saving grace for production” that they were able to “use what we already have around the lot” for the fictional TV show’s production trailers. She suspected they “even probably used some of our actual crew members.”

• Tori: “It was just like on ‘BH90210,’ we did the same. We had a makeup trailer scene, we used our makeup trailer.” Jennie: “And we used our makeup artists.”

• Jennie liked that Lydia was reading Entertainment Weekly and said it made her “laugh.” She added, “Maybe I should start reading that shit.”

  • Jennie didn’t mention that she was on the cover of EW more than once.

• Tori said “technically” Brandon shouldn’t have been wearing the bandana yet when he entered hair and makeup. Jennie joked, “Maybe he just fell in love with it and wanted to wear it all the time.” Tori wondered what Jason’s reaction was to the bandana.

• Jennie: “He did seem rather comfortable wearing that makeup. He didn’t flinch when she was putting all that makeup on his face.”

• Jennie “really felt the sibling-ism in this episode,” both the “rivalry” and the “connection” between Brandon and Brenda. 

• Tori: “I think Brandon looked really good on camera. He could’ve been an actor, that Brandon Walsh.” Jennie: “You know who he looked like?” Tori: “Who?!” Jennie: “He looked just like that guy Jason Priestley.” Tori: “Interchangeable. Wow, that is uncanny. He also looked just like this guy from ‘Sister Kate.’”

• Tori said Jason “always had the pinkest lips” and that people even wondered if the makeup team was using “gloss” on him. Jennie: “He had very beautiful lips.”

• Jennie asked how they felt when Lydia picked up Brandon in a limo and Tori admitted, “I felt at home, actually. I grew up with a white limo.”

• Jennie prodded Tori to talk about it. Tori said she’d go in a station wagon with her nanny and was only ever in the limo with her parents. She further said her parents would “take it to school events” and that was “not cool” and she’d be “mortified” and “devastated.” 

• Jennie: “I think like one percent of the world can relate to that story.” She pointed out it’s usually the opposite, with most kids embarrassed by their parents’ crappy cars. 

• Sisanie: “All we wanted was to be in limos.” Tori: “I know, and all I wanted was to be a regular kid because people made fun of me. I would get bullied at school for being like the ‘rich girl in school’ and I didn’t know how to fight back with that.”

• Tori then self-deprecatingly joked that her kid self should’ve assured them she’d “get cut out of the will someday” (since that’s kinda what happened, with Aaron leaving Tori and Randy very, very little of his wealth and the rest going to Candy).

• Jennie: “The white limo really took me back to the ‘90s hardcore.”

• They then marveled how limos have changed over the years. Jennie wanted to know where all the white ones went, with Sisanie replying, “The limo graveyard.” Tori joked she should get one of them because the old ones probably aren’t expensive now and they would be big enough to fit her family.

  • Jennie: “Just take out the alcohol bottles before you put them in there.” Tori said she’d stock it with juice boxes.

• Jennie announced they had a guest coming up: “It’s very exciting because I’m actually a fan of hers and you probably are too.”

• The guest was Amy Hill, whom Jennie said “played the, like, assistant director on the TV show” and Tori said she was the “first AD.”

• After a break, Amy joined them on the call while in Hawaii filming “Magnum P.I.”

• Talking about being in Hawaii during the pandemic, Amy made a very not-PC joke, saying, “It’s great because we are predominantly Asian-Americans so we are very compliant. We all wear masks. Not a lot of Karens here.”

• Jennie said she was “freaking out” because she’s a “big fan” of Amy’s, particularly with The Cat in the Hat.

  • Oh, Jennie. Didn’t anyone tell you this is not a good time to be bringing up Dr. Seuss?

• Amy was flattered and spoke about the prosthetics process, as well as doing her own stunts, for the film.

• Jennie: “So what do you remember about being on ‘Beverly Hills, 90210’ back in the day?” Tori: “You’ve done so much, so I’m sure you don’t remember much from this experience.”

• Amy said she did, actually, as the show was one of her first jobs in Los Angeles. She said she knew Charles Rosin, who was a “friend of a friend” and “hung out” with her during filming.

• Amy said it can be weird coming on to a show as a guest star, especially when you haven’t done a lot of work, but “everybody was very kind and wonderful. Jason Priestley was so sweet and so was Luke Perry. They were raised very well. They were so polite and kind. But I knew Charles so he had lunch with me. I also knew the location scout, Diane Friedman, from San Francisco, so she came and had lunch with me, so I didn’t feel lonely.”

• Amy said she wore her own clothes, but “the hat probably wasn’t mine,” and didn’t wear any makeup.

• Tori: “I gotta to say, you’re our second guest star that has said they had to wear their own wardrobe. Interesting.” Jennie disagreed, saying she thought that was “common,” especially if someone was just doing one day of shooting. She added, “Tori gets offended that we asked people to come on the show and then made them wear their own clothes.”

• Amy said she was happy wearing her own clothes and not having to do wardrobe fittings. Jennie dislikes fittings too.

• Jennie explained the process of trying on different outfits and the wardrobe people taking pictures and showing them to producers to get approval. She wondered where all the “stacks and stacks and stacks” of photos from their fittings are.

• Tori: “Jennifer Eve Garth, you are a genius. You just came up with the best [idea] — it should be a photo book. Like a coffee table book.” Amy: “Tori, that’s your next project!” Tori: “It was Jennie’s idea. You heard it here!” Jennie: “She’ll steal it.” Tori: “I’m not gonna steal it! No, I’m gonna do it with you. I don’t steal your ideas. I partner with you.”

  • Awesome. Another way to make money off fans — when we still haven’t even been thanked for their last money-grab.

• Jennie wanted to do a rapid-fire game with Amy, but Tori had a question first: “The scene where Jason got water thrown in his face over and over, how did you feel about that?”

• Amy said she “always” feels bad even when things are just being done “for [the] camera.” In this case with Jason, she said, “He’s so sweet. He’s a trooper. But I felt bad. I always do.”

• Jennie: “I kinda liked it.”

• For the game, Amy was first asked her favorite character on the show and Tori told her, “And we have no hard feelings here, so don’t worry.” She answered, “I love the boys, so I’m gonna say Luke.” Jennie: “Good one. Dylan, right?” Amy: “Yeah, Dylan. I can only remember one name, either their real name or character name.”

• It was no surprise then that Amy is Team Dylan over Team Brandon.

• For a favorite ‘90s “Beverly Hills, 90210” fashion item — or, as Tori said, “anything you wore in the ‘90s because it’s all back in now” — Amy said shoulder pads. Jennie: “I love a shoulder pad!” Tori: “Shoulder pads were the ‘80s, though.” Amy joked that she was “delayed.”

• The last question was “Kiss, Marry, or Kick to the Curb,” natch. Amy: “I don’t feel this way now because she’s gone through so much… Shannen, I feel horrible about her, but in the day, Brenda would be kicked to the curb. She was not fun. She was not a pleasant person on the show. Maybe in real life, I don’t know. I didn’t work with her at all. But now, ugh, my god, it breaks my heart. And Luke, I guess I’d kiss him because he’s so kissable, and then Jason I’d marry because he seemed very stable. He’d be good in a relationship.”

• Jennie: “We’re getting a lot of that — kiss Dylan, marry Jason, marry Brandon. You’re not alone.” Tori: “You kiss the bad boy, you marry the practical guy.”

• Jennie asked Amy what she’s up to besides “Magnum P.I.” and when people can check it out. She said she’s wrapping the show this month and will be working on an indie project that she can’t talk about, but it’s with people she loves. She’s been doing “a lot of animation” voiceovers via a makeshift studio at home, and she also voiced an A.I. on a fiction podcast.

• Jennie: “So it’s like acting but on a podcast.”

  • Yes… like the soap operas that started out on radio, including my favorite, “Guiding Light.”

• Tori wanted to know Amy’s “favorite voice” she’s done. She said, “I’m always an old Chinese lady in various forms. Much like Cat in the Hat.”

• Amy told them she is Grandma Panda in “Kung Fu Panda” on Amazon Prime and they asked her to do the voice, which she obliged. Jennie was thrilled and Tori was excited to play this audio for Beau.

• Amy: “So I’m various forms of that in different shows. Sometimes I’m a Japanese old lady… It’s really fun. Animation is fun, I’m sure you guys know that.”

• Jennie said she hasn’t done much of it, but did find it fun.

• Tori asked Jennie if she remembered Ian having an animated show called “Biker Mice From Mars” and how they were guest stars on it “back in the day.” Jennie said she did remember.

  • They did one episode together. Brian and Jason each did two episodes of it and Luke did six.

• Amy: “It’s the best. Tell your agents.” 

• Amy said how you can do animation “in your closet” and Jennie quipped, “You can do a lot of things in there.” 

• After Amy got off the line, Jennie said, “You guys, I really love it when we have guests on the show.” Tori: “Me too. Aw, man, she’s adorable.”

• Jennie insisted they have to watch Cat in the Hat.

• Sisanie asked Tori the “age gap” between Beau and her next oldest. She said four years and that she had to count on her fingers to figure it out.

• After a break, Tori flubbed the episode title and tried to make a joke about it. Sighing about finding fame, she lamented, “If you’re lucky. And then what?”

• Jennie brought up Brenda “having her moment in the sun.”

• Tori “loved how they intertwined A and B storylines, that Brandon finds fame and Brenda, who actually wants to be an actress, is jealous, but then she finds her own way of bringing fame to her real life and everybody at The Peach Pit with Laverne, [who] would go on to become one of the most memorable characters ever.”

• Jennie: “She owned that. She did a great job with that character.”

• Tori said they wanted to do a “flashback” with Shannen playing Laverne on “BH90210” but it didn’t happen.

• Jennie sympathized with Brenda being a bad waitress at The Peach Pit, saying it “looked stressful” and she wouldn’t want to do it.

• Tori pointed out how Brandon makes it look “effortless.”

• Tori was impressed by Brenda doing all the different dialects.

• Sisanie asked if that’s “hard” for them, doing accents. Tori said she can’t do them. Jennie confirmed it is indeed hard and they urged her to do an Irish accent that she once had to do for a role. She demonstrated, saying how the voice has to come up at the end. Jennie joked, “You gotta think of a leprechaun and then just do that.”

  • If you really want to hear people talking Irish, watch “Normal People.” 

• Jennie said she has a friend from Canada who sometimes sounds like she’s from Ireland and it’s “so confusing.”

• Tori insisted she could never get hired in a role with an accent, but Jennie said she could if she worked with a coach.

• Tori brought up doing a Southern accent for “Mystery Girls” and said “it was like bad.” They wanted her to demonstrate and Sisanie told her to say “the biscuits are coming out of the oven.” She did and they were impressed, but Sisanie was perplexed by Tori apparently not moving her mouth (which we couldn’t see, obviously). Tori: “I was frozen in fear.” 

• Tori: “We will get to it eventually, it’s in later seasons, there’s an episode where we filmed a reality show and it was supposed to be like ‘Real World.’ It’s in the beach apartment and I had to have a British accent and apparently I did it so bad, on the internet, they panned me on the internet, like ‘That was so awful,’ and I got so horrified afterwards that I was like, ‘I’m never doing an accent again,’ so most of it comes from that fear. So thanks, internet trolls.”

  • But I thought, as they’ve insisted in past podcasts, the internet didn’t exist when the show was on!

  • Also, they are still pretending they are going to get to the “later seasons.” This episode Tori is referring to, “Unreal World,” is from season 5. It’s a good one. But a long ways away.

• Superfan Sisanie: “But Brenda’s Laverne is probably one of my favorite memories from the series. It just brought back so many memories of watching it.”

• Jennie wondered where Brenda got her Laverne outfit. Tori wanted to know if Shannen “weighed in on the character and how she was styled because it was so specific and so brilliant.” Jennie suspected Shannen “had some say in [it] because she did it with such a passion. She really went for it, so she must’ve felt like it was good.”

  • Well, if you bothered to talk to the writers… (or even correctly name them for this episode).

• Tori: “Did Laverne ever come back after this episode?” Jennie: “I don’t think so.” Tori: “She should’ve.”

  • Sigh.

• Jennie wanted to know how Kelly and Donna ended up dancing with Brenda behind the counter: “What’s going on in that restaurant?”

• Superfan Sisanie was impressed the song wasn’t dubbed over on streaming, which Jennie said would’ve been “weird.” Tori: “They probably had to use that one and pay for it because we were lip-syncing.”

  • Yes, or the scene could’ve been cut.

• Sisanie: “So Tori, on the internet, it says Donna and Kelly’s dance scene to ‘It’s My Party’ was choreographed by Tori Spelling.”  

  • Um, it doesn’t just “say” that “on the internet.” I’m pretty sure that was revealed when the Rosins spoke about this episode on the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” podcast, as I highlighted above. But heaven forbid they acknowledge that podcast exists.

• Tori: “So interestingly enough, I remember everything usually. I do not remember that.”

• Jennie thought it was “probably” Tori who choreographed it because “just recently we had to do something where we were dancing on a stage and you came up with the moves. Didn’t you come up with the moves on ‘BH90210’ when we had to do that Robert Palmer thing?” Tori said in that instance they were just “mimicking what we did in the original one.” (Duh.)

• Tori: “I probably did. I used to choreograph, when I did go to high school, dance routines for P.E.”

• Jennie: “You missed your calling. You could’ve been a choreographer. A famous choreographer.” Tori: “Would I have been a billionaire? Traveled the world?... Like Katy Perry or something? That would’ve been a nice life.”

  • Katy Perry is not a choreographer.

• Sisanie brought up the fashion in the episode and Tori said she liked Brandon’s graffiti sweatshirt and thought it would be “totally in” today

• Sisanie liked Kelly’s sheer sleeves on her denim jacket, but Jennie felt that was more of a Donna look, especially because of the flowers. Tori agreed, but thought that wasn’t established as Donna’s style yet.

• Tori said she was going to “go on record and guess” that “the actress” who played Lydia (they didn’t name her) previously auditioned for Andrea and was possibly called back later on for this part.

• Jennie agreed they had “similar vibes” and thought she did a good job in this role.

• They also joked about Brandon wearing flowers and stealing Tori’s look and how Jason must’ve missed the memo. Tori then cracked, “I don’t know, maybe they sent it to Jessica Alba by mistake. That was a shameless callback.”

  • And not a very good one, especially if you have to point it out.

• As for favorite lines, Tori liked Brandon saying, “Hey babe, lookin’ real good, babe” and “I hope I didn’t come off as rank amateur today.”

• Jennie said she wrote the latter down too, but wasn’t sure what it meant. Neither was Tori.

• Tori thought it was “ironic” that Brandon says he’s a “good kisser” since they talk about that “all the time.”

• Sisanie liked Lydia saying, “It’s hard to be who you are when you’re always pretending to be someone else.” She went on, “It really got me thinking what it’s like to be an actor and if you felt there’s any truth to that in real life.”

• Jennie said yes, adding, “I didn’t know who I was until I was 40.” Tori: “I feel the exact same way. It was late 30s, 40.” She said she still “wavers” between being herself and what people expect her to be.

• Jennie doesn’t think this issue is specific to acting: “You want to be what everybody wants you to be but maybe you don’t feel like being that right now or maybe that doesn’t actually suit you but you’ve kind of gotten pigeon-holed in that. I think a lot of people can relate to that.”

• Sisanie: “You played Donna and Kelly for 10 years. Is it then difficult to move on from that role and star in different roles?”

  • Pretty sure Superfan Sisanie has no idea Jennie went on to successfully star in more than 80 episodes of another show just a couple of years after “Beverly Hills, 90210.”

• Tori: “Not for us, but I feel like it’s hard for other people to accept you being someone else.”

  • I think she’s right. I see that attitude amongst fans of the different teen dramas all the time. So many just want to see Kelly and Donna or whoever it may be.

• Ha, after I typed the line above about Jennie’s other show, Tori said, “Jen went on to do something that many actors never do, which is have another hit television show playing a different character after she already had a huge television show, with ‘What I like About You.’ That’s very uncommon. That was amazing.”

• Jennie said she felt like enough time had passed between the two series because she had kind of “hid for a few years after the show ended… I took some time off.”

  • That’s not quite accurate. “Beverly Hills, 90210” ended in 2000. Jennie did “The $treet” that same year and and then “What I Like About You” premiered in 2002. That isn’t much time in between projects at all.

• Jennie thinks actors are “so exposed now” with their “everyday life there for everyone to see” and “that limits you in a way because the audience doesn’t really buy you as a different character. When you go do another project, it’s hard to shed their image of you.”

• Tori said there’s the dilemma of wanting to be seen as relevant but then being accused of being too relevant.

• For pilot season last year, Tori said her manager kept being told, “She’s just too Tori.” Tori lamented that she can’t stop being who she is.

• Jennie said Tori “made a choice, like so many other people, to show your real life and be so forthcoming and open with people” on reality TV and the like. Jennie didn’t think that made Tori relevant but “relatable” and “that’s worth a whole different appreciation and value.”

• Jennie: “I think you’re only as relevant as your last job.” Tori said she thinks it used to be that way, but today, you’re as relevant as what people last saw about you on a weekly basis, because “people that haven’t worked in years are still relevant nowadays” thanks to social media and whatnot.

  • Is that not Jennie and Tori’s real goal with this podcast? To stay relevant between acting gigs? Besides making money off fans, of course.

• A fan named Courtney wrote in saying, “Jennie was lucky enough to have many kissing scenes with both Jason and Luke. Was there ever a time when the kissing scene was supposed to end and you actually just kept on going?”

• Jennie: “Wouldn’t that be fun? No, I don’t think so. Kissing scenes are so uncomfortable and awkward usually. For me personally, I don’t think that ever happened where we kept making out in front of the whole crew and wasted everyone’s time. I don’t think so.”

• Tori said “you quickly stopped and backed away” when “cut” was called and didn’t want to seem too into it.

• Sisanie: “I could never be an actor. It’s too emotional for me. If I’m having to make out with somebody… It would be cheating on my husband for me. There’s no way.”

• Jennie: “It messes with your head, that’s what it does, because instinctually you do, your body, your brain, starts stirring up these feelings of a connection with this person and the truth is there is no connection most of the time... There’s no relationship there. It really does mess with your head on a crazy level.”

• Part two of the question was, “Any memories of one of them forgetting to use mouthwash before a scene and they had unbearable bad breath?”

• Jennie didn’t recall anything, but pointed out that Jason was a smoker “and I didn’t love that.” 

• Tori said the makeup team would normally help them with breath freshening before a kissing scene.

• Jennie said she wouldn’t name the guy, but she was working on a movie with a dude who had white stuff on the corners of his mouth and she had to kiss him. The thought made Tori want to puke (and she made a “Jennie Barf” reference). 

• Tori wanted to know if the guy was at least good-looking and said she would text Jennie afterward to find out who it was. Sisanie wanted to know too, of course.

• Tori threw in a dig about Sisanie not telling them she was pregnant, but Sisanie turned it around as proof she can keep a secret.

• Another fan question: “If you went to school with any of the ‘Beverly Hills, 90210’ characters, which ones would you be friends with? You can’t say each other.”

• Jennie said Andrea because she’d help her get her homework done.

• Tori thought it was “limiting” that they couldn’t say each other and Sisanie admitted she added that part to the fan’s question.

• Tori said she would pick Brenda if she couldn’t pick Donna or Kelly and that Brenda was at least in her “wheelhouse,” with her wanting to be an actress, into fashion, into boys, and dramatic and emotional like a “typical girl.”

• Jennie: “Well, that’s it for another exciting episode, you guys. Another one down, only 387 more to go. No, not really.”

  • Not that far off…

• Sisanie: “We’re getting there. We’re denting into that first season.”

• Tori suggested they have a virtual wrap party for the first season. Jennie joked, “Get your tickets now!”

  • Wouldn’t be surprised if they did do that and again charged fans.

• Jennie said the next episode, 17, is “Stand (Up) and Deliver” and Tori implored, “Do your homework. Watch it back and be here next week.”

• Sisanie: “And the merch is still available if you guys still want to get some.”

• Tori said there’s one shirt she really wants “if you know anyone who knows anyone” and then exclaimed, “Oh, what am I thinking?! I can just go to ‘9021OMG’ podcasts and order it!”

  • Just plugging away. And I’m sure plenty of fans are falling for it.

I want to be clear: There can be more than one podcast about a television show. There can be more than one good podcast about the same show. “9021OMG” doesn’t need to be the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” and the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” doesn’t need to be “9021OMG.” Both offer interesting perspectives and different points of view.

It was interesting, for example, to learn about the making of “Fame Is Where You Find It” from the people who wrote it (and in Charles’ case, also produced it) and it was interesting to hear about it from the actresses who starred in it. But, boy, does it come off as DUMB when the questions you have now were actually answered more than six months ago.

Everything from the casting of Kaplan to Brandon’s odd wardrobe to the characteristics of Laverne was addressed by the Rosins on the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” last July. Wouldn’t it have been great if Jennie, Tori, and Sisanie actually watched that and referenced it instead of just leaving fans hanging? Wouldn’t it be great if they did research instead of coming off as ignorant? Wouldn’t it be awesome if they recognized what a richer experience this could be if they even just occasionally consulted key behind-the-scenes players instead of relying on their own faulty memories?

Of course, you can absolutely do a rewatch podcast without involving behind-the-scenes crew. Fans do it all the time. And it can be quite enjoyable. (I’ll be highlighting a “Dawson’s Creek” podcast in tomorrow’s “Teen Drama Links,” actually. And, coincidentally, I’ll have an item on “What I Like About You” too.) But to not acknowledge that this other podcast with the writers and producers exists, to not acknowledge they dove deep into this very episode you’re talking about, is just… I’m running out of words.

What’s more is Jennie and Tori were both on the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” podcast last month. That podcast regularly and repeatedly promotes theirs. But that promotion, or even just support, doesn’t go both ways. Yet it takes nothing away from “9021OMG” to point out such-and-such episode was also covered on the “Beverly Hills 90210 Show” and fans should really check out both for the full experience.

But, of course, only one podcast is paying them.

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