Teen Drama Links for November 28, 2023

It’s time to revisit the idea of separating the art from the disgraced artist. Is it possible? Should it be done?

I’m not sure I have much more clarity or answers than I did when I wrote “Separating ‘One Tree Hill’ From Mark Schwahn” almost three years ago.

But while my essay only scratched the surface of this issue, the book Monsters by Claire Dederer goes deep.

In exploring the topic, she writes about figures like Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, and J.K. Rowling, as well as Hemingway, Picasso and others, with monstrous behaviors ranging from sexual assault to antisemitism. She considers what responsibilities we have as audiences, what the consequences are of parasocial relationships, and how even mothers can be viewed as monsters for daring to prioritize their work over motherhood.

Dederer also ponders whether it’s possible to have empathy for monsters, who are more than the worst thing they’ve ever done, or if their identities should only boil down to their misdeeds, and whether redemption is possible. She also admits that, in some ways, she too is a monster. We may all be.

As I read the book earlier this fall, I found myself wanting to highlight line after line. I ultimately didn’t, as virtually all of it would’ve been covered in yellow highlighter. Notably, the last chapter resonated with me a lot in terms of the complicated feelings I have toward Schwahn given my love of “One Tree Hill.” The chapter also had me thinking about the show’s character of Dan Scott and how, at the end of his life, son Nathan tells his dying dad he still loves him regardless of the fact that Dan spent most of his life being, well, a monster.

If anything, I think I feel less guilty. Less guilty about still loving “One Tree Hill” and less guilty about still admiring Schwahn for what he created, wrote, and directed. This doesn’t mean I don’t recognize his horrific misdeeds or that I absolve him of them. But it does mean I can be objective sometimes and subjective at others, which is a luxury and a privilege that victims typically don’t have.

Whether you feel strongly about the Schwahn-“One Tree Hill” issue or not, I highly recommend Monsters. This is a topic worth exploring for anyone interested in the dark sides of popular culture.

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In the last week, two awesome Substacks were kind enough to feature me, and by extension, TeenDramaWhore.

In an interview with Leigh Kamping-Carder of

The Heart Dialogues

, I publicly shared for the first time that I have a congenital heart defect and detailed having heart surgery at 10 years old and then falling out of care.

Her rare heart condition was “fixed,” but its impact endures

On a much more fun note, I was honored to be asked to participate in

Yes, We're Still Watching

’s “Five Days of Gossip Girl” series. What “Gossip Girl” moment can I just not stop thinking about? Click below to find out!

Gossip Girl Moments You Just Can't Stop Thinking About

Teen Drama Links for November 28, 2023

Listicle Links

Reminder: All lists and articles relate to the teen dramas or teen drama stars in some way.

• “Most People Are Born In The Wrong Generation — Choose Some Popular Shows To Find Out Your More Accurate Gen” (BuzzFeed)

  • Not all that surprised that I got Gen Z…

• “Here’s What The ‘Twilight’ Cast Looked Like At The Beginning Of Their Careers Vs. In The Movies Vs. Now” (BuzzFeed)

• “‘One Tree Hill’ Actually Had Four Finales, But This Is the Best One” (Collider)

• “It Still Stings: One Tree Hill Gave up on Its Most Powerful Redemption Arc” (Paste)

  • This was written by

    Yes, We're Still Watching
    co-author
    Mallika Mitra
    !

• “‘Tis the Season! All the Christmas Movies Starring ‘One Tree Hill’ Alumni: A Complete Guide” (Us Weekly)

  • Related: 2023 Holiday Movies with Teen Drama Stars (TDW)

• “The 10 best Joe Manganiello movies and TV shows” (We Got This Covered)

• “Gossip Girl’s Iconic Thanksgiving Episodes Are Something to be Thankful For” (Paste)

  • Related: Teen Drama Thanksgiving Episodes (TDW)

• “Every Gossip Girl Thanksgiving Episode, Ranked” (People)

• “The ‘Gossip Girl’ Episode That Made the Show a Thanksgiving Icon” (Collider)

• “The Biggest Problem With That ‘Gossip Girl’ Reveal Isn’t Dan” (Collider)

• “32 TV Shows That Helped Launch A Young Actor’s Career” (Cinemablend)

• “11 Shows Like Outer Banks (And How To Watch them)” (Cinemablend)

• “8 TV Episodes and Movies to Watch for the 8 Nights of Hanukkah” (People)

  • Related: Being a Jewish Teen Drama Fan (TDW)

• “Top 5 frenemies in Sitcom history featuring The Office, Gossip Girl, and more” (Pinkvilla)

  • Again “Gossip Girl” is described as a sitcom. I don’t get it.

• “Top 5 fan favorite shows to have been canceled in 2023, featuring Shadow and Bone, The Great, and more” (Pinkvilla)

• “The 13 Best Thanksgiving Episodes To Rewatch Over And Over” (Brit + Co)

• “The 13 best Thanksgiving TV episodes to rewatch every year — from ‘Friends’ to ‘Modern Family’” (New York Post)

• “The Best Thanksgiving TV Episodes to Rewatch Every Year” (The Daily Beast)

• “Best Thanksgiving Episodes to Stream: ‘Friends,’ ‘Succession’ and More” (The New York Times)

• “Hmm, Whatcha Say? Is This The Greatest TV Thanksgiving Moment Ever?” (Pajiba)

• “Four Books About TV and Hollywood to Read Right Now” (Vulture)

• “The 2023 Holiday Gift Guide for TV Lovers” (Paste)

• “We Scoured Crave & Here Are 26 Blasts From The Past You Can Stream Right Now” (Narcity)

• “Trapped in Commerce: When TV Shows Surround Their Characters With Everything They Could Want” (PRIMETIMER)

• “What The Cast Of John Tucker Must Die Is Doing Today” (The List)

• “A Look Back At Roger Howarth’s Daytime Career” (Soap Opera Digest)

• “Who Is Max Greenfield’s Wife? All About Tess Sanchez” (People)

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Best of the Rest

• Tori Spelling (Donna, Beverly Hills, 90210) is facing new tax liens. (The Blast)

• I was taken aback by Brian Austin Green (David, Beverly Hills, 90210) calling out Jennie Garth (Kelly, Beverly Hills, 90210) for allegedly not including Spelling in an upcoming event. (TooFab / Instagram)

• Ian Ziering (Steve, Beverly Hills, 90210) was on Green’s “Old-ish” podcast, co-hosted by Randy Spelling (Kenny / Ryan, Beverly Hills, 90210) and Sharna Burgess — though Green himself wasn’t present. (iHeart)

• Ziering participated in the “World’s Largest Disco” last weekend. (WKBW)

• Tiffani Thiessen (Valerie, Beverly Hills, 90210) shared a cocktail recipe for an online holiday segment for “Today.” (Today)

• Elisa Donovan (Ginger, Beverly Hills, 90210) was on the “ReWives” podcast. (Apple Podcasts)

• Donovan spoke about “Beverly Hills, 90210” in a new feature. (Inspired Magazine)

• Greg Vaughan (Cliff, Beverly Hills, 90210) discussed a new “Days of Our Lives” storyline. (Soap Opera Digest)

• Meredith Stiehm (writer, Beverly Hills, 90210) reflected on the writers strike on the “Strike Talk” podcast. (Deadline)

• At last night’s Gotham Awards, Michelle Williams (Jen, Dawson’s Creek) lost Outstanding Lead Performance to Lily Gladstone. (Deadline)

• Joshua Jackson (Pacey, Dawson’s Creek) responded to estranged wife Jodie Turner-Smith’s divorce petition. (People)

• Scott Foley (Cliff, Dawson’s Creek) is suing his son’s board of education, various related officials, and a bus company in the wake of “an incident last year in which [his] child and a friend were hospitalized after eating cannabis-laced candy they found on the school bus.” (FOX61)

• “The O.C.” is coming to Crave on December 1. (Bell Media)

• Two episodes of “The O.C.” and one of “Gossip Girl” are part of Max’s curated holiday collection. (The Futon Critic)

• Here’s more press for today’s release of Welcome to the O.C.

  • “Exclusive: ‘The O.C.’ Cast and Crew Reveal The Chaos and Joy of Filming the Show’s Iconic First Episode” (Cosmopolitan)

  • “‘The O.C.’ killed off Mischa Barton’s Marissa Cooper. Why producers Josh Schwartz, Stephanie Savage regret the decision today.” (Yahoo)

  • “‘The O.C.’ Creators on Failing Marissa and a Possible Reboot” (The Daily Beast)

  • “Harvey Weinstein Lost His Sh-t Over ‘Gossip Girl’” (Rolling Stone)

  • Also: “Welcome to the O.C.’s Biggest Revelations: Chris Pine’s Audition, The Paternity of Theresa’s Son & More” (HollywoodLife)

• To celebrate the book’s release and the show’s 20th anniversary, Rachel Bilson (Summer, The O.C.) and Melinda Clarke (Julie, The O.C.) reunited for a special edition of the “Welcome to the OC, Bitches” podcast — joined by

  Alan Sepinwall
  , the book’s author. (Apple Podcasts)

• Bilson did another interview for her Nutrish partnership. (Yahoo)

• Erin Foster (Heather, The O.C.) is expecting her first child. (Instagram)

• Paris Hilton (Kate, The O.C.) announced a second child via surrogacy. (Instagram)

• Despite signing a deal with X (Twitter) last month, Hilton’s company has suspended ads on the platform in the wake of Elon Musk’s antisemitic remarks. (CNN)

• McG (executive producer, The O.C.) started making the media rounds to promote Family Switch, which he directed.

  • “McG Talks Possible Charlies Angels 3, Says Terminator Movie ‘Stung’” (TooFab)

  • “McG Confirms The Babysitter 3 Is Still in the Works” (ComicBook.com)

  • “McG Wants to Direct a DC or Spawn Movie” (ComicBook.com)

  • “McG Reflects on Terminator Salvation and the Darker Alternate Ending” (ComicBook.com)

• McG will executive-produce a docuseries on the Timepiece Gentleman scandal. (Deadline)

• In an interview tied to his partnership with LenelS2, Chad Michael Murray (Lucas, One Tree Hill) declined to address the recent allegations from the aforementioned Foster in which she claimed he cheated on her with Sophia Bush (Brooke, One Tree Hill). (E! Online)

• Bryan Greenberg (Jake, One Tree Hill) and wife Jamie Chung are on “Name That Tune” tonight. (TVLine)

• “Motorheads,” written and executive-produced by John A. Norris (supervising producer, One Tree Hill), was picked up to series by Amazon Video. (Deadline)

  • Back in 2020, the show was attached to IMDb TV.

• Here’s another interview Leighton Meester (Blair, Gossip Girl) did tied to EXmas. (E! Online)

• Ed Westwick (Chuck, Gossip Girl) briefly spoke about his relationship with Amy Jackson. (Daily Mail)

• Amanda Setton (Penelope, Gossip Girl) did a joint interview with Rena Sofer for “General Hospital.” (Michael Fairman TV)

• AnnaLynne McCord (Naomi, 90210) did another interview tied to Condition of Return. (Monsters & Critics)

• Rumer Willis (Gia, 90210) did a new interview for her partnership with Bumpsuit.

  • “Rumer Willis Calls Raising Daughter Louetta an ‘Experience I’ve Dreamed About My Whole Life’” (People)

  • “Rumer Willis ‘Loves Watching’ Bruce Willis and Demi Moore Bond with Her Baby Girl: ‘Most Magical’ (People)

• Diablo Cody, who appeared on “90210” as herself, will write and executive-produce the Max adaptation of the DeuxMoi novel Anon Pls. (Variety)

  • The news comes more than a year after Greg Berlanti (executive producer, Dawson’s Creek) joined the project as an EP.